Geometry at the End of Time

Daniel Pinchbeck and Robert Lawlor interview.

"It's only consciousness that survives the Kali Yuga."
"It is only death that can bestow rebirth"

"Certainly, we should give it our best shot to reconstruct see the systems that we have but on but there's forces that seem to just keep that in a sort of dream diary.. in the 1960s when we're realizing we should stop cutting down the forest and the thing in South America … it's all accelerated from those times the trees are falling in Brazil faster than ever ...I don't think anyone should stop doing anything; it's not for that; you don't stop maintaining your body when you get older and you you're going to die, you even increase it, but that still doesn't eliminate thatvwhen you have a beginning middle you have an end and this is what the yuga system outlines."

positive primitive

with Robert Lawlor
Primitive means that which has remained close to the origins, to the source.  A child comes freshly to us from the source.  The connotations of various words such as primitive changed with industrialisation.  This was studied by Owen Barfield.  



Agriculture was a big mistake.  It involved the enslavement of the plant world.  Culture is to do with the way we draw nourishment and as we changed from nomadic to agriculture our culture has dramatically changed. The mystic, hunter, dancer, wandering indigenous nomad became the builder, farmer and unskilled worker.  An indigenous human can feed themselves by the age of 3 or 4 so knows true individuality.  Companionship is purely about the joy of kinship rather than economic necessity.  Indigenous peoples had about one square mile per person.  After agriculture we actually became shorter, our physical frames deformed under the burden of work and the nutrition became actually  poorer.



The human is the only organism wired so that walking is a spiralling motion opening up an imploding vortex of bioelectric field.  Walking and dancing are the fundamental ground of aboriginal culture, not the struggle to provide sustenance and basis of life...that's a major psychological and spiritual shift...

dreamtime physics

The Hindu myth of Vishnu, the god who dreams the universe, recalls the saying of the Kalahari Bushmen of South Africa, "There is a dream dreaming us." The Aborigines of Australia, close kin to the Bushmen, are heirs to an oral tradition that spans 40,000 years, if not longer. They base their worldview on a mystical dimension called Alcheringa, the Dreamtime. To them the Dreamtime is not in the remote past, as outsiders tend to assume. Rather, it is the Eternal Present with Past and Future nested in it. Visible and invisible worlds, spiritual and sensorial events, gods and humans, self and other, are dynamically coupled in the Dreamtime. Robert Lawlor writes:
Aboriginal cosmology allows us to conceive of a creation without the need to hypothesize a physical evolution nor a spiritual transcendence. A creation fully present, embodied, and magical in the union of its physical and metaphysical dimensions. (Voices of the First Day)
  This is also true for the creation story realized in the Gaia Mythos. The Dreamtime is an event that persists eternally, without beginning or end, and supports the constant play of shifting conditions, the world phenomena. When the Dreamtime comes to expression in particular knowledge and behavior, the Aborigines refer to the Dreaming of the creature who embodies that knowledge and exhibits that behaviour. For instance, the Kangeroo Dreaming is summation of the innate knowledge and instinctual behavior of all kangaroos, going back to the Dreamtime ancestors. One could say, in biological terms, it is the enactment of the genome of the Kangeroo species.
All creatures, organic and inorganic, human and non-human, live and die by the Dreamings that play through them. In the Aboriginal worldview the unique gift of humans to create culture stems from our capacity to remember and retell the Dreaming, not only of our own species, but of others as well. The indigenous belief that the role of humanity is to remember the events of the Dreaming for all creatures accords with the suggestion presented in Sharing the Gaia Mythos: namely, that the human species enables a memory-circuit for Gaia.
John Lamb Lash